Who is your favorite character and why?

Norn · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:44 am Post subject:

I always thought of that too

I kind of think that Evaline's death set off something

in my story my brothers

I have it where The parents fought because Evaline thinks that Joesph isn't thinking of a his children at all

which at the time are Jerimah,Aaron and Bethany

Eveline set them off to live with they're grandparents in a river area in england...

I notice that the older siblings have pure english accents while the young ones have a mix

Like the older siblings live there half of they're life while they're parents try to sort out they're diffences

because how I look at it Ambrose and Lizbeth are spoiled and ungreatful

While Jerimah,bethany and Aarron were raised half way right and knew how to be

There must have been times when Lizbetha and Ambrose would ask they're older siblings what they're mother was like....

they could have said many things about her

Ambrose and lizbeth were wild and loose runing

while the older siblings did what they were told cus they knew better

I think there is also something strange about how Lizbeth and Ambrose died

I think the older siblings had to due something with it...

I think ambrose and lizbeth's behavor was always blames on them
so they were looked at as the infulences

they must have ben tired of that role and did something about it....

Must have been a age diffence that Seprated jeriamah,Bethany and Aaron from they're young siblings

I really think that

cus we have no idea how old AAron,Bethany and Jerimah are they look alot older then ambrose and Lizbeth

must have.....

glad to share!!

Zazoo · Groundskeeper Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 14

Norn · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject:

maybe so...

I kind of felt from jeriamah's journal that He felt some sort of resist against Lizbeth and ambrose...

he wasn't all discriptive with Aaron and Bethany
because he knew them on a certain level where he could stand it

On a level with Lizbeth and Ambrose he could not
Ambrose and Lizbeth seem so wild that nannies, Baby siters,private teachers would quit they're postions because of such terrible behavior

probley to a area where the older siblings had to handle them
Maybe Jeriamah,bethany and aaron could tolrate Lizbeth and ambrose's angry problems

Bethany would be the one to handle lizbeth's angry
She seems to have the mature and kind nature to do so
Trying her best to be motherly to her
She would probley share her books
But I guess when lizbethw as sent to london
Bethany had freedom to due her own things
she would travel but still have her home in the astate
there is still more secerts between the sister's I imagine

For Aaron and Jeriamah would try to tower over Ambroses ever towering angry streak
probley they're father approuch them to be better brothers to let him know he has someone to turn too...
Though ambrose was embrassed by his brother's and father

His brothers anbd father were much like isolated souls in the astate
Jeriamah would read alot
while his father fouce mostly on his work
Aaron would paint and isolate in dark places

I think ambrose and Lizbeth grew taller then they're older siblings
must been the effects of the curse

like Lizbeth grew a few inchs taller then bethany
Ambrose grew a few inchs taller then Aaron and Jeriamah

I've protipated in a enough photo takenings to know Bethany is siting part of the cheri to make her more taller and into clear view

Jeriamah siting in the chair to show classic poraties of the eldest or the head would be siting down

I'm the youngest of 2 siblings
My brother who is 21
my siste who is 20
while myself is 18

both never tell me anything of they're lifes and alway secert
I have a destructive reltionship with them

mot of the time which are what brother's and sisters have
others I don't know....

the OTHER guy · Howler Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 148 Location: Oneiros

Norn · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject:

I think the undying curse works alomng the lines of the ukzmki curse

The ukizmki which means spiral in japanese

Takes place with a story about a small town infected by cursed spirals
people seem to give into so easily it highten they're sense's of wanting atteion and power

Alot of people whom played the game the game at my school think there was no king

I did tell them thoughs ruins like the standing stones represent a crown of a king

like in the ukzmki was some sort of fouce like the standing stones were

I got a bok on a realted subject to the standing stones

I can tell all about it

Katran · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject:

According to Dell Siefert, one of the game designers, the "king" was actually a demonic being from another plane which had attached itself to a "node", or gateway, between its world and ours, and was feeding off our world's energy. Its presence at this gateway created evil influences in our world and allowed some monstrous beings, like the Howlers, through into our world.

The Celtic warrior who was buried there was just a sacrifice meant to seal the gateway, though it obviously didn't quite work. He was apparently long dead, and of no real consequence.
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Norn · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject:

eheeh no wonder it wa so fat!!

I guess the summon of the chant that Jeriamah did must have release some sort of infection on the siblings

sort of infection of power that king had already in itself

which pass to the siblings

maybe it needed some sort of reaction or needed beings in are world to have this sort of power again so it can become stronger

makes sense....

though I think the siblings were still human in themselfs at times when they were alive
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Katran · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject:

Exactly. The incantation 'tainted' the siblings with the demon's evil. They were still human while alive, but after death they became something else. They apparently still had a human soul, but were trapped between life and death and were under the influence of the evil. Only Aaron seemed to be dismayed at his fate, though even he seemed to embrace it at times. And yet Lizbeth, while seeming to enjoy her new power, also made a comment about seeking vengence against Jeremiah for bringing the curse upon his siblings. Ambrose said something about finishing what Jeremiah started, so perhaps something was left undone and that's what Lizbeth was wanting vengence for. Perhaps the siblings were bound to the demon and wanted the power all to themselves? I'm just guessing here, of course.
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Norn · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:21 am Post subject:

They couldn't understand it

I really think that ambrose where just little bity children when the curse started on them

while bethany and aaron where around the same age as Jerimah to understand and forgive jerimah early

young children who had sort term or long term abuse at a very young age can't understand why they have it

yet they are mad and want nothing better but justice

Ambrose and Lizbeth wanted Revenge from jerimah for ruining they're path in life due to the curse

I think lizbeth just wanted to kill patrick so he will be out of the way of her venagese

With ambrose who seeked a way out thinking the stone will release him from the curse

I think the young siblings wanted release from they're imortalty

coruse with The older siblings knowing better then thye're young ones

Like Aaron was the oopsite of Bethany

One wanted Power
One wanted Peace

like they were a ying yang sysmbol

Coruse I bet there was a time where they must have gotten along
they must have enjoyed each other's company and ban together

Which I think Aaron was the voice of reason when they got on that boat that very day of the curse...

Lizbeth and ambrose were too young and un-aware

Bethany was probley going along cus she and Jerimah share a trust bound
While Aaron sense uneasy in the area and try to tell jeriamah to stop and they shouldn't go out there

Coruse like aaron who easily over powered
was gone by force

For Jerimah he was probley in between

Like haveing the power hungry in him
while the goodness in him

I think he was also the provoker of is sibling to sneak off to places
Maybe on that dasy f the circus he had to take his younger siblings along so they wouldn't be there to rat on them

he must have been the one to break up fights between Aaron and Bethany

I bet for a period Bethany would give Aaron sorts of potions in his tea or weeds he smoked

Aaron must have found out along the way what bethany was doing to him and broke into a huge massive riot over it

Jerimah would sson be there haveing o protect his brother from he clutchs of bethany

Jerimah must have drafted himself to the army because he was irrated with his 2 siblins at home

Maybe due to aaron's gambleing and drugs Aaron had no home but the astate

Jerimah left for the war while Aaron was killed by bethany

Jeriamah must have been some sort of quite one

maybe himself not talking much and shut things out

realteing his twins on sort of level

they themsefs would have much like a peaceful rest....

and so on...
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Zazoo · Groundskeeper Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 14

I often wonnder when patrick defeats the undying king, do the sibling spirts become free of the curse? Would Lizbeth's spirt become a lady, and would Aaron and Bethany get along a little better (i say a little cos i'm not sure if that was the curse) Would Jeremiah be less selfish. Would Ambrose accept his family. I like to think so cos i love happy endings but still.

Random: for some reason everytime i pictuer the event at the sanding stones i picture Ambrose (sometimes Aaron) holding a little Lizbeth when the wind blows and Jeremiah and Bethany huddled near each other.
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Katran · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:48 am Post subject:

Ambrose and Lizbeth were very young. Based on the information given in the game and in Jeremiah's journal, Lizbeth's age can be pretty much pinpointed to around 5 years of age. She was the youngest, and Ambrose was probably not too much older, many between 1-3 years older.

While I can accept that Lizbeth may or may not have hated her new self, I really think Ambrose revelled in it. He just seemed to enjoy it too much. He wanted the power for himself, which is why he stole the Gel'ziabar stone and tried to get rid of Jeremiah.

Did the Scythe free the siblings' souls? We know that the Scythe separated the soul from the body, but were those souls free to ascend to Heaven, or were they still damned? Did the destruction of the King free their souls, or were they still damned? I don't think those questions were ever answered.
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the OTHER guy · Howler Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 148 Location: Oneiros

I seem to recall that the Scythe unraveled their souls. As such, their souls have been released from their (im)mortal coils. This is not necessarily bad, as otherwise they faced eternal torment. Not that that is a particularly good way to go either, but it is better than the alternative.
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Norn · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:37 am Post subject:

when I think of the ages it doesn't make sense the way they were put in order made it confuseing so I guess my own terms

I think the siblings and they're family went free and the poratl was sealed

the creature need they're power and it was defeated

it's power went free

anyway Clive barker wasn't going to show such things because he's not one of thoughs authers to give his doomed charcters a showing exited

or if it's like the candyman where they're spirt is stuck.....

But I think they must have a had a peaceful rest
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these teeth...
are
a ladder up to his mouth
all these teeth are a ladder
that I walk
that you can walk to
if you want
if you want, up to
the mouth, mouth's cradle
up to the mouth's cradle

~Bjork~Mouth's Cradle~Medulla

Katran · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:07 am Post subject:

Why did you find the siblings' ages confusing?
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Norn · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject:

Just times....
settings..
writeing...

also I think that jerimah mostly planted thoughs fake journals or letters around the place in order to make things confuseing

I really don't care for it to be explain to me

I really don't want it too be anyway

Cus I want my own thing to stay in my head and I don't want it disturb...

yeah I'm wierd
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these teeth...
are
a ladder up to his mouth
all these teeth are a ladder
that I walk
that you can walk to
if you want
if you want, up to
the mouth, mouth's cradle
up to the mouth's cradle

~Bjork~Mouth's Cradle~Medulla